KaKaRoTo announces jailbreak for 3.73 - 改機

By Cara
at 2011-11-22T14:23
at 2011-11-22T14:23
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卡卡羅德又發言了(翻譯非打字錯誤,請大家用標準國語唸出來)
《3.73越獄澄清文》
Hi all, 嗨唷~大家安安♥♥
I've been flooded with questions on twitter and I've read many
posts on news sites and I've seen some stuff being said on IRC and I
thought I needed to clarify a few things.....
輪家在推特上收到一大堆詢問的推文,而且讀了許多網站跟 IRC聊天室的紀錄之
後,輪家覺得有必要出來澄清一下……。
First of all, I didn't expect to see my tweet front paged on all ps3
hacking news sites... although I should have expected it... but
anyways, the "jailbreak" is not ready to be used, at all. I only
tweeted that because I was excited having it working and I wanted to
share my excitement with everyone. But this is a bit equivalent to
the day I released that create_cfw.sh script that created the very
first CFW/MFW but it still took a couple of months before a real,
easy, multiplatform and fully fledged solution was released: PS3MFW.
首先咧,輪家沒料到昨天的推文會讓輪家的推特登上各大網站的頭條……,其實
輪家早應該猜到滴……。好啦,不管怎樣,這個「越獄」暫時是不能用滴。輪家
會推出來是因為輪家的理論得到實證所以輪家很高興咩,人家只不過是想跟大家
婚想一下「經驗」咩。感覺現在的狀況就跟輪家以前第一次放出用來生成第一個
自製論體的create_cfw.sh 批次檔的時候一摸摸一樣樣,只是過了幾個月之後才
出現跨平台,能讓大家隨心所欲降降釀釀亂弄的程式:PS3MFW。
We are currently at the same state, I have the proof of concept, it
works, but a solution that anyone can use where they just click a
button and their PS3 gets jailbroken is still far from ready.
偶們現在的狀況也差不多,輪家已經把想法印證了,而且大成功喔~但素咧離最
後一鍵就讓 PS3主機越獄的傻瓜操作還差很遠哩。
I've seen people say (and even write it in their front page news)
that I'll release it in two weeks after I come back from vacation.
That is not true and I never said that. What I said was that for the
next 2 weeks, the project is on hold until I get back.. but when I
get back, then I will continue working on it, and it will then take
some more time before it's ready and released.
有些輪在首頁上寫說輪家出國兩個禮拜後回來就會釋出,這是不對滴,而且輪家
從來都沒有講過。人家只說過這兩個禮拜會暫停研究而已,等到偶回來,就會繼
續弄了咩,然後還要花一段時間才會推出。
Some asked if it's based on what gitbrew was doing/suggesting or if
I used someone else's exploit or work. No, this solution is my own
idea and 100% my own implementation. However, the actual solution for
the full jailbreak involves some components on which I will not work,
and I expect/hope that someone else will provide the solution for
that.
有些輪問說偶是不是靠gitbrew 或是其他輪的靈感才做出來的。錯錯錯!這個百
婚豬百是輪家自己發現的啦!當然到最後用來越獄的方案,也會有其的部份是要
靠其他輪才能完成,至少偶是這麼期待的啦~
Some speculated it might be what I spoke about back in March which I
later said I wasn't pursuing by lack of motivation.. and yes, you
are right. The same hack I had in March is still valid today, I told
a few people about it (rms, Mathieulh, an0nym0us, and a couple more),
but no one was interested in pursuing it further and actually
exploiting that flaw (mainly because it requires a huge amount of
work to get a proof of concept working). 10 days ago (I started on
the 11th), I got bored and decided to start poking at it again, and
yesterday (a lot faster than I thought it would take), I got my first
pkg installed on 3.73 firmware.
也有些輪問說這是不是那個偶在今年三月時候說沒興趣要退出的東西……,對啦
你們猜對哩!偶在三月發現的手法到現在都還能用喔,然後輪家有偷偷告訴一些
輪,像是rms 、Mathieulh 、an0nym0us 等等等。但是他們都沒興趣繼續深究,
因為那個漏洞要實證需要很大的工程。差不多過了10天,都沒輪鳥偶,所以輪家
就決定自己試試看,大概在昨天(比偶想像的快很多),輪家就成功把自己的
pkg 檔案裝在3.73版上了唷~
On twitter, I said "do not update if you are on 3.55", I said that
in response to someone who said he would update. Because of that,
people speculated that you need to be on 3.55 first, and then install
something before doing the upgrade. No, that's not it, that would be
useless. The purpose of my solution is to jailbreak a ps3 that is
already on 3.73 firmware and which had never been jailbroken before.
I told people not to update because, first of all, it's not yet
ready, and second of all, the 3.55 firmware gives you a lot more
possibilities than what can be achieved on 3.73.
偶在推特上面說「如果還在3.55上的輪就不要升級」,是因為怕有些輪一聽到JB
就升上去了。就因為降,有些輪就說一定要3.55才能用這個JB,才能夠裝軟體。
錯錯錯,才不是這樣呢><,那根本沒用好唄!偶一開始就打算針對已經在3.73韌
體的主機下手的說,而且以前都沒JB過的主機。偶叫大家別升級是因為還沒準備
好,而且以現在來說3.55的自由度會比3.73高很多。
So what is this jailbreak? I won't say because I don't want Sony to
block it in a firmware update (and yes, they potentially could)
before it's even released (and yes, I will release it when it's
ready). But I will explain this to you: in order to run your
homebrew apps, you need two things. First, to be able to install them
on the ps3, and second to be able to run it once installed. I did
only one of these two things.
所以到底這個JB速捨魔?才不告訴你咧,因為輪家不想讓SONY之後把這個洞補起
來(理論上他們做得到),尤其是在釋出之前(所以偶釋出時一定可以用)。但
是偶可以稍微解釋一下:第一,能把自製程式裝在主機上;第二,裝進去的程式
可以跑。輪家只做這兩件事而已。
Some may say it's not a real jailbreak, but the way I see it, there
are three "jails" on the ps3, I broke the first one which prevents
you from installing anything, so now you can install your .pkg,
great, but it won't run, that's the second jail. The third jail is
being able to modify the firmware (peek&poke).
有些輪說這不是真的JB,但輪家是這樣看的: PS3主機上頭的監獄有三層,偶突
破了第一層,於是可以安裝.pkg檔案,但不給跑,這是第二層,第三層則是直接
修改韌體。
The second jail (running apps) is something that can be done, but it's
not my area of expertise (npdrm algo), so I will not be working on
that. I am waiting for someone else to achieve it (some have
succeeded but do not wish to release it, at least not for now) then I
will release.
第二層理論上可以達成,但這不是輪家的專業咩,所以輪家就不弄了,給專業的
來,(因為有些輪說已經弄出來了,只是不想釋出而已)等到他們完成之後就會
釋出了。
The third jail (modifying the firmware) is not possible with my
method, this means that you will not have a "CFW", you will run
your homebrew applications and games on an official firmware. This
also means that without peek&poke support, none of the backup
managers will work. So, again, my solution is piracy-free, and as
always, I do not plan on working on a way to enable piracy (or even
legal backups).
至於第三層,輪家的方法是沒辦法突破滴唷,所以不會有自製韌體,你只能在官
方韌體上跑自己的程式,因此也不會有peek & poke 的支援,沒有一款備份管理
員能夠動作。所以,輪家的JB不會引發盜版,輪家可是從來都沒想要支援盜版喔
!
Overall, the purpose will be to allow people who are on 3.73 firmware
to enjoy the homebrew games that were released, to play a bit with
Eskiss, and to use Showtime for playing their movies. This should be
more than enough for everyone.
總之,最終目的是讓在3.73版上的輪能夠執行正版遊戲,也能執行自製程式,比
方說像Showtime之類的。
Finally, I will conclude by replying to another question I received:
Do you accept donations? The answer is yes. I do accept donations but
I do not seek them out. I will include a donate button to the bottom
of this post, so if anyone wishes to donate, they can do so, however,
I want to make it clear that whether or not you donate does not and
will not affect in any way, the release, or the progress of the work
I'm doing. If you donate, you would do it as a sign of appreciation
of my efforts, and not in exchange of any favors or anything crazy
like that.
最後,順便回應一下其他的問題,有輪問說「需要募捐嗎?」當然有是最好啦,
偶接受捐獻但不會強迫大家一定要捐。輪家在文章底下擺了一個捐款連結,想捐
的輪可以自由捐獻,同時輪家要澄清一下,無論有沒有捐錢,都不會有所影響最
後釋出的決定,也不會影響輪家的工作進度。你的捐獻只會代表對偶的工作的感
謝,而不是交換偶的工作成果。
That's about it I think... If you have any more questions, please
refrain from asking them, I get enough as it is already.. I also said
everything I needed to say and I don't want to give any more
information than that (for now).
這些差不多就是偶的想法。如果你有其他問題的話,請先爬文後再發問,偶已經
回答很多了。而且輪家該說的都說了,就只能說這麼多,其他的都是秘密。
KaKaRoTo 卡卡羅德
******
沒有peek & poke 的話,要撈金鑰會比較困難
--
《天龍人轉職技能開發樹 Skill and Occupation Tree of Sky Dragoners》持續更新ing
┌→勞委會┌→新北市/立法院
┌裝熟──看報──比爛┐┌哽咽┴─告密┬┴無視─→總統府/台北市/文建會
囧mm ┤ ┌→農委會┌──┘└──┐┌──┘┌→桃園縣/台中市/交通部
└裝死┴─跳針┬┴硬拗─┬轉彎┘└震怒─┴白賊─→行政院/外交部
└→加油讚└→體委會/財政部/監察院
--
《3.73越獄澄清文》
Hi all, 嗨唷~大家安安♥♥
I've been flooded with questions on twitter and I've read many
posts on news sites and I've seen some stuff being said on IRC and I
thought I needed to clarify a few things.....
輪家在推特上收到一大堆詢問的推文,而且讀了許多網站跟 IRC聊天室的紀錄之
後,輪家覺得有必要出來澄清一下……。
First of all, I didn't expect to see my tweet front paged on all ps3
hacking news sites... although I should have expected it... but
anyways, the "jailbreak" is not ready to be used, at all. I only
tweeted that because I was excited having it working and I wanted to
share my excitement with everyone. But this is a bit equivalent to
the day I released that create_cfw.sh script that created the very
first CFW/MFW but it still took a couple of months before a real,
easy, multiplatform and fully fledged solution was released: PS3MFW.
首先咧,輪家沒料到昨天的推文會讓輪家的推特登上各大網站的頭條……,其實
輪家早應該猜到滴……。好啦,不管怎樣,這個「越獄」暫時是不能用滴。輪家
會推出來是因為輪家的理論得到實證所以輪家很高興咩,人家只不過是想跟大家
婚想一下「經驗」咩。感覺現在的狀況就跟輪家以前第一次放出用來生成第一個
自製論體的create_cfw.sh 批次檔的時候一摸摸一樣樣,只是過了幾個月之後才
出現跨平台,能讓大家隨心所欲降降釀釀亂弄的程式:PS3MFW。
We are currently at the same state, I have the proof of concept, it
works, but a solution that anyone can use where they just click a
button and their PS3 gets jailbroken is still far from ready.
偶們現在的狀況也差不多,輪家已經把想法印證了,而且大成功喔~但素咧離最
後一鍵就讓 PS3主機越獄的傻瓜操作還差很遠哩。
I've seen people say (and even write it in their front page news)
that I'll release it in two weeks after I come back from vacation.
That is not true and I never said that. What I said was that for the
next 2 weeks, the project is on hold until I get back.. but when I
get back, then I will continue working on it, and it will then take
some more time before it's ready and released.
有些輪在首頁上寫說輪家出國兩個禮拜後回來就會釋出,這是不對滴,而且輪家
從來都沒有講過。人家只說過這兩個禮拜會暫停研究而已,等到偶回來,就會繼
續弄了咩,然後還要花一段時間才會推出。
Some asked if it's based on what gitbrew was doing/suggesting or if
I used someone else's exploit or work. No, this solution is my own
idea and 100% my own implementation. However, the actual solution for
the full jailbreak involves some components on which I will not work,
and I expect/hope that someone else will provide the solution for
that.
有些輪問說偶是不是靠gitbrew 或是其他輪的靈感才做出來的。錯錯錯!這個百
婚豬百是輪家自己發現的啦!當然到最後用來越獄的方案,也會有其的部份是要
靠其他輪才能完成,至少偶是這麼期待的啦~
Some speculated it might be what I spoke about back in March which I
later said I wasn't pursuing by lack of motivation.. and yes, you
are right. The same hack I had in March is still valid today, I told
a few people about it (rms, Mathieulh, an0nym0us, and a couple more),
but no one was interested in pursuing it further and actually
exploiting that flaw (mainly because it requires a huge amount of
work to get a proof of concept working). 10 days ago (I started on
the 11th), I got bored and decided to start poking at it again, and
yesterday (a lot faster than I thought it would take), I got my first
pkg installed on 3.73 firmware.
也有些輪問說這是不是那個偶在今年三月時候說沒興趣要退出的東西……,對啦
你們猜對哩!偶在三月發現的手法到現在都還能用喔,然後輪家有偷偷告訴一些
輪,像是rms 、Mathieulh 、an0nym0us 等等等。但是他們都沒興趣繼續深究,
因為那個漏洞要實證需要很大的工程。差不多過了10天,都沒輪鳥偶,所以輪家
就決定自己試試看,大概在昨天(比偶想像的快很多),輪家就成功把自己的
pkg 檔案裝在3.73版上了唷~
On twitter, I said "do not update if you are on 3.55", I said that
in response to someone who said he would update. Because of that,
people speculated that you need to be on 3.55 first, and then install
something before doing the upgrade. No, that's not it, that would be
useless. The purpose of my solution is to jailbreak a ps3 that is
already on 3.73 firmware and which had never been jailbroken before.
I told people not to update because, first of all, it's not yet
ready, and second of all, the 3.55 firmware gives you a lot more
possibilities than what can be achieved on 3.73.
偶在推特上面說「如果還在3.55上的輪就不要升級」,是因為怕有些輪一聽到JB
就升上去了。就因為降,有些輪就說一定要3.55才能用這個JB,才能夠裝軟體。
錯錯錯,才不是這樣呢><,那根本沒用好唄!偶一開始就打算針對已經在3.73韌
體的主機下手的說,而且以前都沒JB過的主機。偶叫大家別升級是因為還沒準備
好,而且以現在來說3.55的自由度會比3.73高很多。
So what is this jailbreak? I won't say because I don't want Sony to
block it in a firmware update (and yes, they potentially could)
before it's even released (and yes, I will release it when it's
ready). But I will explain this to you: in order to run your
homebrew apps, you need two things. First, to be able to install them
on the ps3, and second to be able to run it once installed. I did
only one of these two things.
所以到底這個JB速捨魔?才不告訴你咧,因為輪家不想讓SONY之後把這個洞補起
來(理論上他們做得到),尤其是在釋出之前(所以偶釋出時一定可以用)。但
是偶可以稍微解釋一下:第一,能把自製程式裝在主機上;第二,裝進去的程式
可以跑。輪家只做這兩件事而已。
Some may say it's not a real jailbreak, but the way I see it, there
are three "jails" on the ps3, I broke the first one which prevents
you from installing anything, so now you can install your .pkg,
great, but it won't run, that's the second jail. The third jail is
being able to modify the firmware (peek&poke).
有些輪說這不是真的JB,但輪家是這樣看的: PS3主機上頭的監獄有三層,偶突
破了第一層,於是可以安裝.pkg檔案,但不給跑,這是第二層,第三層則是直接
修改韌體。
The second jail (running apps) is something that can be done, but it's
not my area of expertise (npdrm algo), so I will not be working on
that. I am waiting for someone else to achieve it (some have
succeeded but do not wish to release it, at least not for now) then I
will release.
第二層理論上可以達成,但這不是輪家的專業咩,所以輪家就不弄了,給專業的
來,(因為有些輪說已經弄出來了,只是不想釋出而已)等到他們完成之後就會
釋出了。
The third jail (modifying the firmware) is not possible with my
method, this means that you will not have a "CFW", you will run
your homebrew applications and games on an official firmware. This
also means that without peek&poke support, none of the backup
managers will work. So, again, my solution is piracy-free, and as
always, I do not plan on working on a way to enable piracy (or even
legal backups).
至於第三層,輪家的方法是沒辦法突破滴唷,所以不會有自製韌體,你只能在官
方韌體上跑自己的程式,因此也不會有peek & poke 的支援,沒有一款備份管理
員能夠動作。所以,輪家的JB不會引發盜版,輪家可是從來都沒想要支援盜版喔
!
Overall, the purpose will be to allow people who are on 3.73 firmware
to enjoy the homebrew games that were released, to play a bit with
Eskiss, and to use Showtime for playing their movies. This should be
more than enough for everyone.
總之,最終目的是讓在3.73版上的輪能夠執行正版遊戲,也能執行自製程式,比
方說像Showtime之類的。
Finally, I will conclude by replying to another question I received:
Do you accept donations? The answer is yes. I do accept donations but
I do not seek them out. I will include a donate button to the bottom
of this post, so if anyone wishes to donate, they can do so, however,
I want to make it clear that whether or not you donate does not and
will not affect in any way, the release, or the progress of the work
I'm doing. If you donate, you would do it as a sign of appreciation
of my efforts, and not in exchange of any favors or anything crazy
like that.
最後,順便回應一下其他的問題,有輪問說「需要募捐嗎?」當然有是最好啦,
偶接受捐獻但不會強迫大家一定要捐。輪家在文章底下擺了一個捐款連結,想捐
的輪可以自由捐獻,同時輪家要澄清一下,無論有沒有捐錢,都不會有所影響最
後釋出的決定,也不會影響輪家的工作進度。你的捐獻只會代表對偶的工作的感
謝,而不是交換偶的工作成果。
That's about it I think... If you have any more questions, please
refrain from asking them, I get enough as it is already.. I also said
everything I needed to say and I don't want to give any more
information than that (for now).
這些差不多就是偶的想法。如果你有其他問題的話,請先爬文後再發問,偶已經
回答很多了。而且輪家該說的都說了,就只能說這麼多,其他的都是秘密。
KaKaRoTo 卡卡羅德
******
沒有peek & poke 的話,要撈金鑰會比較困難
--
《天龍人轉職技能開發樹 Skill and Occupation Tree of Sky Dragoners》持續更新ing
┌→勞委會┌→新北市/立法院
┌裝熟──看報──比爛┐┌哽咽┴─告密┬┴無視─→總統府/台北市/文建會
囧mm ┤ ┌→農委會┌──┘└──┐┌──┘┌→桃園縣/台中市/交通部
└裝死┴─跳針┬┴硬拗─┬轉彎┘└震怒─┴白賊─→行政院/外交部
└→加油讚└→體委會/財政部/監察院
--
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