DAIBLO版 版主momoWade 不願溝通板務、挑釁版友 - 暗黑破壞神

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作者: hanhsiangmax (陪我去台東) 看板: Sub_GOnline
標題: [申訴] DAIBLO版主不願溝通板務、挑釁版友
時間: Sun Jul 9 15:46:58 2017
案件申訴
 ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄
看板群組:G_Online
申訴人:hanhsiangmax
申訴看板/板主ID:DIABLO/momoWade
認定或處分之事由、內容:(事實發生經過)
DIABLO版於2014/06/03起,由於當時D3交易文水量太大,決議轉往DiabloEX
並從此禁止發D3的互動及交易文
然而之後D3關閉拍賣,DiabloEX文章數量過低,版友希望修改版規允許D3互動文
版主不顧時空變遷,一味要求版友遵循3年前的投票結果
並且屢次不願重新舉辦投票
最近因為D3死靈發布,人潮回流,眾多版友再次要求版主舉辦投票修改版規
由於DIABLO並非為某一代專版,而是系列延續,因此各代標準應該一致
1. 允許D3於DIABLO發互動文 (多數版眾所希冀)
2. D2互動交易文一視同仁轉往DiabloEX
然而版主表明自己不想插手此事,只願遵循3年前的結果
批評版友只是嘴砲,不自己爭取權利,要求版友自行連署
但在版友自行連署後,卻又要訂立嚴格連署標準,必須在2017年發版友文
未發過版友文連署無效、2017年後加入DAIBLO版者也無效
試圖排除潛水及新進使用者,使其無法參與板務
版友質疑後,反過頭批評版友跟風嘴砲,指質疑不提有意義之建議
待版友發文說明連署資格後,要求討論後
留下一句他說的都在推文裡說過,不願說明
並馬上發文禁止討論版務,違者水桶
不服之理由:(爭點、沒有共識的關鍵點)
1. 表明不願處理糾紛,不想沒事找事做(然而版眾明確有此需求)
2. 批判版友應自力救濟,表示版友不做,他將自己做,但訂定嚴格標準
然而版友自行連署後,卻又介入要提高連署資格
3. 明言以板務為標題不罰,然而卻在三日後禁止討論版務
4. 要求版友自行看其不知何處之推文,不發公告說明板務
5. 挑釁版友
所附證據:(完整貼在下方,或以附件方式轉錄文章並編號)
==違規原文==
1. 不願處理糾紛部分:
#1PNG-KIM (DIABLO)
A:D2/D3分流屬投票結果,我的立場一直是"一切結果論",沒道理要求人少就回歸,
人多又再分流。
也許你覺得沒問題,但是被小組長罵的是我,我為什麼要沒事去擔這個無妄之災?
目前沒有多數版眾要求人多要再分流,純屬版主自行臆測
#1PNZasuY (DIABLO)
明確說明除非有人自行做出改變,否則他就放著爛
2. 要求版友自力救濟,承諾不介入;版友連署後改口要介入,並且不得商量標準
#1PNZasuY (DIABLO)
我的回答是:因為總是只有人說卻沒人做,我來就是會有一堆條件。
我沒事不想找自己麻煩,當然會有條件,要各自解讀的話,我沒有意見。
此時表明若版友自行處理,不會有意見
在版友於阻務版申請連署後,表示他一定會介入
3. 明言板務標題不罰,卻任意更改威脅水桶
#1PNG-KIM (DIABLO)
真要回公告文,請使用板務標籤,保證不罰。
於7/6明言不罰板務標題,並在之前要求版友自行決議板務(如上一點所述)
#1POG_Lw6 (DIABLO)
此篇之後出現系列文者一律刪文外加水桶30天。
欲發表意見者請自行使用推文,不歡迎再回覆至板面上。
版友討論三天,並自行連署後,以不歡迎再回覆至板面上為由,無預警禁止板務文
4. 要求版友自行看其推文,不願發文公告板務規準
#1POG067j (DIABLO)
此篇文章完全無其推文
且一個禮拜內有超過10篇板務文,根本不知其指為何
顯現其完全不想認真、正式處理此次事件
5. 挑釁版友
#1PNZasuY (DIABLO)
==板主公告==
#1PN8MH0Y (DIABLO)
#1PNG-KIM (DIABLO)
#1PNZasuY (DIABLO)
#1POG_Lw6 (DIABLO)
==溝通紀錄==
#1PNX2Wst (DIABLO)
#1POG067j (DIABLO)
==========================================================
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文章標題請改:[申訴] xxx 板 yyy板主 zzz(主旨)
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作者: hanhsiangmax (陪我去台東) 看板: Sub_GOnline
標題: [申訴] DAIBLO版主不願溝通板務、挑釁版友
時間: Sun Jul 9 15:46:58 2017
案件申訴
 ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄
看板群組:G_Online
申訴人:hanhsiangmax
申訴看板/板主ID:DIABLO/momoWade
認定或處分之事由、內容:(事實發生經過)
DIABLO版於2014/06/03起,由於當時D3交易文水量太大,決議轉往DiabloEX
並從此禁止發D3的互動及交易文
然而之後D3關閉拍賣,DiabloEX文章數量過低,版友希望修改版規允許D3互動文
版主不顧時空變遷,一味要求版友遵循3年前的投票結果
並且屢次不願重新舉辦投票
最近因為D3死靈發布,人潮回流,眾多版友再次要求版主舉辦投票修改版規
由於DIABLO並非為某一代專版,而是系列延續,因此各代標準應該一致
1. 允許D3於DIABLO發互動文 (多數版眾所希冀)
2. D2互動交易文一視同仁轉往DiabloEX
然而版主表明自己不想插手此事,只願遵循3年前的結果
批評版友只是嘴砲,不自己爭取權利,要求版友自行連署
但在版友自行連署後,卻又要訂立嚴格連署標準,必須在2017年發版友文
未發過版友文連署無效、2017年後加入DAIBLO版者也無效
試圖排除潛水及新進使用者,使其無法參與板務
版友質疑後,反過頭批評版友跟風嘴砲,指質疑不提有意義之建議
待版友發文說明連署資格後,要求討論後
留下一句他說的都在推文裡說過,不願說明
並馬上發文禁止討論版務,違者水桶
不服之理由:(爭點、沒有共識的關鍵點)
1. 表明不願處理糾紛,不想沒事找事做(然而版眾明確有此需求)
2. 批判版友應自力救濟,表示版友不做,他將自己做,但訂定嚴格標準
然而版友自行連署後,卻又介入要提高連署資格
3. 明言以板務為標題不罰,然而卻在三日後禁止討論版務
4. 要求版友自行看其不知何處之推文,不發公告說明板務
5. 挑釁版友
所附證據:(完整貼在下方,或以附件方式轉錄文章並編號)
==違規原文==
1. 不願處理糾紛部分:
#1PNG-KIM (DIABLO)
A:D2/D3分流屬投票結果,我的立場一直是"一切結果論",沒道理要求人少就回歸,
人多又再分流。
也許你覺得沒問題,但是被小組長罵的是我,我為什麼要沒事去擔這個無妄之災?
目前沒有多數版眾要求人多要再分流,純屬版主自行臆測
#1PNZasuY (DIABLO)
→ momoWade : 我沒訴求幹嘛要擔這個麻煩下來07/06 22:10
→ momoWade : 如果沒有人願意為d3做出改變 那就放著爛 我也沒影響07/06 22:10
明確說明除非有人自行做出改變,否則他就放著爛
2. 要求版友自力救濟,承諾不介入;版友連署後改口要介入,並且不得商量標準
#1PNZasuY (DIABLO)
我的回答是:因為總是只有人說卻沒人做,我來就是會有一堆條件。
我沒事不想找自己麻煩,當然會有條件,要各自解讀的話,我沒有意見。
此時表明若版友自行處理,不會有意見
→ momoWade : 然後我這麼說吧,不論支持反對的票我都會審過07/08 19:24
→ momoWade : ip跟id重複過的無效,沒發過文無效,上站低於300無07/08 19:25
→ momoWade : 效,發過板友文直接計算,以上,不做修改07/08 19:26
→ momoWade : 發過文就算,引戰討噓廢文不算,一樣我主觀判定07/08 20:05
→ momoWade : 我一開始就說我"來訂"會嚴審,只有人反對太嚴格07/08 20:06
→ momoWade : 卻沒有人提出到底以多少為基準07/08 20:07
→ momoWade : 有人提要用上站跟發文數,卻沒說到底多少算數07/08 20:07
→ momoWade : 現在我放寬我的標準,又有人覺得我沒格審,那也提點07/08 20:08
→ momoWade : 有營養的建議,跟風嘴炮真的很簡單07/08 20:08
在版友於阻務版申請連署後,表示他一定會介入
3. 明言板務標題不罰,卻任意更改威脅水桶
#1PNG-KIM (DIABLO)
真要回公告文,請使用板務標籤,保證不罰。
於7/6明言不罰板務標題,並在之前要求版友自行決議板務(如上一點所述)
#1POG_Lw6 (DIABLO)
此篇之後出現系列文者一律刪文外加水桶30天。
欲發表意見者請自行使用推文,不歡迎再回覆至板面上。
版友討論三天,並自行連署後,以不歡迎再回覆至板面上為由,無預警禁止板務文
4. 要求版友自行看其推文,不願發文公告板務規準
#1POG067j (DIABLO)
→ momoWade : 抱歉喔 類似的我早在推文中就有說了07/09 01:37
此篇文章完全無其推文
且一個禮拜內有超過10篇板務文,根本不知其指為何
顯現其完全不想認真、正式處理此次事件
5. 挑釁版友
#1PNZasuY (DIABLO)
→ momoWade : 現在我放寬我的標準,又有人覺得我沒格審,那也提點07/08 20:08
→ momoWade : 有營養的建議,跟風嘴炮真的很簡單07/08 20:08
==板主公告==
#1PN8MH0Y (DIABLO)
#1PNG-KIM (DIABLO)
#1PNZasuY (DIABLO)
#1POG_Lw6 (DIABLO)
==溝通紀錄==
#1PNX2Wst (DIABLO)
#1POG067j (DIABLO)
==========================================================
未依照申訴程序者不受理
文章標題請改:[申訴] xxx 板 yyy板主 zzz(主旨)
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