BWE3兩天下來的感想 - 線上
By Doris
at 2012-07-23T12:37
at 2012-07-23T12:37
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因為有預購, 所以這周末就上去試了一下BWE3.
絕大多數時間都在玩Asura Guardian, 不過五個種族的起始任務都有碰一下,
其他職業也稍微玩了一下
一開始會想玩, 主要還是看了幾個Anet對整個遊戲概念的介紹影片.
我算是對PvP沒什麼太大興趣的人,
或者應該說要玩PvP有太多遊戲可以玩, 個人不會選擇在MMO這樣的類型上面玩PvP
但是GW2對於PvE的概念讓我覺得蠻好的,
其中最重要的是, 他們說不要讓玩家一直重複做那些根本就會讓你覺得自己是小兵的事
而是要回歸到RPG裡讓玩家當個英雄.
另外動態事件的設計也讓我覺得很有趣, 不過這點就之後再提.
總而言之, 遊戲一開始給我的感覺就是
"超爽的~ 花60鎂買個可以單機, 也可以找人玩的MMO"
PvE
確實是很有趣. 我很喜歡他們處理主線劇情的做法. 尤其是Asura的主線又很好笑.
但是, 如果純跑劇情的話等級會跟不上主線, 這是讓我覺得美中不足的地方
我在跑主線的時候不管路過任務, Vista, PoI都會順路去跑, 但是動態事件沒什麼參與
這樣的程度讓我等級一直略低於主線,
雖然沒什麼問題, 但當我玩其他種族想稍微看一下主線劇情的時候就很麻煩了.
讓我有種回到十年前的RPG, 要破關還要先走迷宮練功的感覺.
這裡就牽涉到另一個問題, 為什麼會說是"走迷宮練功"?
以我玩到17級, 走到第二張圖(我忘了叫啥)的感覺.
幾乎所有的動態事件, 和愛心的任務, 都很無趣.
先講愛心的任務.
我不認為這跟其他MMO的接個任務, 然後殺X隻怪, 拿Y個東西有什麼不同.
雖然我看Anet的概念講的很好, 不想讓玩家做這種殺X隻怪拿Y個東西的事.
但我真的不覺得這些任務就有跳脫出這個框架.
我是多了一些選擇權. 我可以用"他給的"任何方式完成這個任務.
不過回歸到原點, 我還是要殺怪拿東西.
差別只是在我可以選擇殺N隻怪拿M個東西, 如此而已.
而且... 幫完忙以後世界還是一樣. 這部份我覺得WoW的鏡像技術處理的比較好就是了
然後愛心任務做完竟然不會跳出回報單讓我幹一下這任務怎麼這麼無聊 (?)
我是相信這個概念可以很有發展性, 也或許目前GW2這個概念只是在發展初期
是值得上市以後再觀察看看.
接著動態事件.
我看他們的概念敘述, 動態事件是可以很有趣,
而根據某張影片裡面的圖, 他們也應該真的有做的很有趣.
但是在BWE3裡面幾乎我所有碰到的動態事件, 都讓我覺得無聊到炸了.
為什麼會無聊到炸, 是因為它根本一直重複.
頻率之快到我解個愛心任務會遇到相同的動態事件兩次.
這樣的感覺, 對我來說跟解任務完全沒有不同.
至於只說"幾乎", 是因為還是有一個有趣的, 那是護送Skritt去偷the Inquest的東西,
然後那些Skritt一直喊著要shinies, 對話又白痴白痴的, 讓我覺得頗為好玩.
而且那個事件還跑蠻遠的... 讓我有種, 啊, 我真的協助他們去進攻另一個地方.
而不是只是突然碰到多一點怪, 要殺多一點敵人這樣而已.
PvP
對我來說很無聊, 也不爽快.
雖然有人跟我說這樣講一定會被說太主觀, 不過好不好玩本來就是個主觀的東西吧.
我看的概念影片幾乎沒提到PvP的部份, 因此我對PvP本來也就沒什麼期待
實際體驗以後... 還真的沒什麼期待.
先是戰場. 戰場我打了大概10場左右, 都是很正規的搶點戰.
搶點戰也沒什麼不好, 但是打起來讓人不會心跳加速或是覺得很爽, 那就不太好了.
至於不會心跳加速/不會爽的主因我看起來有以下幾個
1. 打擊感薄弱
我不知道怎麼形容這種感覺. 或許是因為Asura太小隻, 或許是因為server lag
或許是動作很怪, 聲音配不上等種種因素
總之我打起來就是:
啊, 我按技能了. 啊, 我真的有打到東西嗎? 啊, 前面的人怎麼死了?
2. 伺服器/線路太lag
老實說這點讓我很不滿, 因為我是知道之前有做過壓力測試的.
但是我玩的期間, 不管是PvE或PvP, 都有遇到或大或小的lag.
如果人數較少的BWE都這樣, 那等到正式上線不知道會不會又上演D3當時的慘劇.
而線路問題, 我測試ping值一直都在200左右, 遊戲內我也不知道怎麼看ping值,
否則看到ping值飆高至少會有些心理準備, 但我沒辦法.
那時慘到我玩了以後, 跟朋友抱怨說為什麼我Guardian堂堂近戰, 每個技能都要唱法?
後來看昆哥的實況, 靠為什麼他的Guardian有好多瞬發技....
3. 玩法老梗
嗯, 就是這樣. 可能我玩過的遊戲已經太多了. GW2的PvP並不讓我覺得有什麼特別之處.
其實(3)並不是個太大的問題. 遊戲嘛, 本來就是大家創意抄來抄去.
但是沒有了(1)(2)的爽感, 又老梗的時候, 讓我沒什麼動力玩.
錦標賽的部份沒隊友沒碰, 至於WvWvW...
人太少了.
這個WvWvW人太少根本沒辦法玩, 所以也等於沒玩到.
我想這應該會很有趣吧, 至少看昆哥玩是蠻有趣的.
然後昆哥邊打邊嗆德國佬也實在蠻智障的. 這應該就是跟朋友玩的有趣點.
專業技能
採集不必學這點還不錯, 但是採起來實在是蠻麻煩的.
我喜歡把原料物分開來放的設計, 不過為什麼有些能放有些不能放啊... Orz
每次按了把所有可收集物資放進去的按鈕以後,
還留下一堆採集物/半成品/可當材料的成品是有點煩..
這次我先玩了武器鍛造跟主廚. 雖然可以隨意切換每個都練,
但卡在一個很關鍵的點讓我沒動力練一練其他專業, 那就是 -- 包包太小了.
對於這點我是還蠻不爽的, 武器鍛造那邊比較沒差, 但主廚就是要拿一堆材料一直試配方
我練到超過75級以後, 包包根本沒辦法裝下所有目前可用的材料,
只能一直換這個換那個然後到處試.
而讓我更不爽的地方是商城可以買包包欄位 -- 我他X的買斷了遊戲,
還要再跟你買包包欄位才能裝下我的食材來試食譜?
可以給我個包包全開數位版讓我先評估一下價錢嗎?
Discovery的設計雖然算有趣, 但我想最後只會變成另一個拿專業經驗的方法吧
畢竟網路資訊流通這麼快, 應該很快就會有全Discovery配方可以查了.
總而言之我正式上線應該是不會再選主廚了, 實在是有點整人.
明明就只有警告材料要花很多錢啊! 也沒跟我說還要花錢買包包欄位...
雜項
我覺得最有趣的部份就是開Vista和對話了. 看不同的種族的個性和對話很好玩.
然後Vista要到處爬山挑戰, 挑戰完還有短片可以看實在很不錯.
印象最深的是一個在Lion's Arch的崖邊一根突出水面的岩石上的Vista.
那時候在附近繞來繞去一直想不透怎麼爬上去, 最後開始想會不會是跟NPC有關,
然後就看到有個NPC真的站在崖邊, 跟他講話竟然要我幫忙測試他新發明的噴射器 XD
至於PoI雖然叫做point of interest, 但我對它們真的沒什麼興趣.
大部份的地圖都蠻漂亮的, Asura的主城Rata Sum也很酷,
不過如果有更多奇妙的發明和導覽的話就好了.
角色動作部份有些我覺得很詭異.
Asura Guardian拿雙手劍時往前跳砍那招一直有微妙的滯空感.
然後我測試的Norn Ranger拿單手劍的時候, 普攻的第三下竟然會浮在空中砍?!
Elementalist的火系第三招Phoenix, 這根本是火麻雀吧! 別騙我了!
總而言之, GW2目前對我來說是個很正常的有好有壞的遊戲雛型, 感覺還沒做的很完善
但至少概念是新穎有趣的.
希望他會一直改進, 希望不會越改越爛, 這樣就很有價值了.
--
絕大多數時間都在玩Asura Guardian, 不過五個種族的起始任務都有碰一下,
其他職業也稍微玩了一下
一開始會想玩, 主要還是看了幾個Anet對整個遊戲概念的介紹影片.
我算是對PvP沒什麼太大興趣的人,
或者應該說要玩PvP有太多遊戲可以玩, 個人不會選擇在MMO這樣的類型上面玩PvP
但是GW2對於PvE的概念讓我覺得蠻好的,
其中最重要的是, 他們說不要讓玩家一直重複做那些根本就會讓你覺得自己是小兵的事
而是要回歸到RPG裡讓玩家當個英雄.
另外動態事件的設計也讓我覺得很有趣, 不過這點就之後再提.
總而言之, 遊戲一開始給我的感覺就是
"超爽的~ 花60鎂買個可以單機, 也可以找人玩的MMO"
PvE
確實是很有趣. 我很喜歡他們處理主線劇情的做法. 尤其是Asura的主線又很好笑.
但是, 如果純跑劇情的話等級會跟不上主線, 這是讓我覺得美中不足的地方
我在跑主線的時候不管路過任務, Vista, PoI都會順路去跑, 但是動態事件沒什麼參與
這樣的程度讓我等級一直略低於主線,
雖然沒什麼問題, 但當我玩其他種族想稍微看一下主線劇情的時候就很麻煩了.
讓我有種回到十年前的RPG, 要破關還要先走迷宮練功的感覺.
這裡就牽涉到另一個問題, 為什麼會說是"走迷宮練功"?
以我玩到17級, 走到第二張圖(我忘了叫啥)的感覺.
幾乎所有的動態事件, 和愛心的任務, 都很無趣.
先講愛心的任務.
我不認為這跟其他MMO的接個任務, 然後殺X隻怪, 拿Y個東西有什麼不同.
雖然我看Anet的概念講的很好, 不想讓玩家做這種殺X隻怪拿Y個東西的事.
但我真的不覺得這些任務就有跳脫出這個框架.
我是多了一些選擇權. 我可以用"他給的"任何方式完成這個任務.
不過回歸到原點, 我還是要殺怪拿東西.
差別只是在我可以選擇殺N隻怪拿M個東西, 如此而已.
而且... 幫完忙以後世界還是一樣. 這部份我覺得WoW的鏡像技術處理的比較好就是了
然後愛心任務做完竟然不會跳出回報單讓我幹一下這任務怎麼這麼無聊 (?)
我是相信這個概念可以很有發展性, 也或許目前GW2這個概念只是在發展初期
是值得上市以後再觀察看看.
接著動態事件.
我看他們的概念敘述, 動態事件是可以很有趣,
而根據某張影片裡面的圖, 他們也應該真的有做的很有趣.
但是在BWE3裡面幾乎我所有碰到的動態事件, 都讓我覺得無聊到炸了.
為什麼會無聊到炸, 是因為它根本一直重複.
頻率之快到我解個愛心任務會遇到相同的動態事件兩次.
這樣的感覺, 對我來說跟解任務完全沒有不同.
至於只說"幾乎", 是因為還是有一個有趣的, 那是護送Skritt去偷the Inquest的東西,
然後那些Skritt一直喊著要shinies, 對話又白痴白痴的, 讓我覺得頗為好玩.
而且那個事件還跑蠻遠的... 讓我有種, 啊, 我真的協助他們去進攻另一個地方.
而不是只是突然碰到多一點怪, 要殺多一點敵人這樣而已.
PvP
對我來說很無聊, 也不爽快.
雖然有人跟我說這樣講一定會被說太主觀, 不過好不好玩本來就是個主觀的東西吧.
我看的概念影片幾乎沒提到PvP的部份, 因此我對PvP本來也就沒什麼期待
實際體驗以後... 還真的沒什麼期待.
先是戰場. 戰場我打了大概10場左右, 都是很正規的搶點戰.
搶點戰也沒什麼不好, 但是打起來讓人不會心跳加速或是覺得很爽, 那就不太好了.
至於不會心跳加速/不會爽的主因我看起來有以下幾個
1. 打擊感薄弱
我不知道怎麼形容這種感覺. 或許是因為Asura太小隻, 或許是因為server lag
或許是動作很怪, 聲音配不上等種種因素
總之我打起來就是:
啊, 我按技能了. 啊, 我真的有打到東西嗎? 啊, 前面的人怎麼死了?
2. 伺服器/線路太lag
老實說這點讓我很不滿, 因為我是知道之前有做過壓力測試的.
但是我玩的期間, 不管是PvE或PvP, 都有遇到或大或小的lag.
如果人數較少的BWE都這樣, 那等到正式上線不知道會不會又上演D3當時的慘劇.
而線路問題, 我測試ping值一直都在200左右, 遊戲內我也不知道怎麼看ping值,
否則看到ping值飆高至少會有些心理準備, 但我沒辦法.
那時慘到我玩了以後, 跟朋友抱怨說為什麼我Guardian堂堂近戰, 每個技能都要唱法?
後來看昆哥的實況, 靠為什麼他的Guardian有好多瞬發技....
3. 玩法老梗
嗯, 就是這樣. 可能我玩過的遊戲已經太多了. GW2的PvP並不讓我覺得有什麼特別之處.
其實(3)並不是個太大的問題. 遊戲嘛, 本來就是大家創意抄來抄去.
但是沒有了(1)(2)的爽感, 又老梗的時候, 讓我沒什麼動力玩.
錦標賽的部份沒隊友沒碰, 至於WvWvW...
人太少了.
這個WvWvW人太少根本沒辦法玩, 所以也等於沒玩到.
我想這應該會很有趣吧, 至少看昆哥玩是蠻有趣的.
然後昆哥邊打邊嗆德國佬也實在蠻智障的. 這應該就是跟朋友玩的有趣點.
專業技能
採集不必學這點還不錯, 但是採起來實在是蠻麻煩的.
我喜歡把原料物分開來放的設計, 不過為什麼有些能放有些不能放啊... Orz
每次按了把所有可收集物資放進去的按鈕以後,
還留下一堆採集物/半成品/可當材料的成品是有點煩..
這次我先玩了武器鍛造跟主廚. 雖然可以隨意切換每個都練,
但卡在一個很關鍵的點讓我沒動力練一練其他專業, 那就是 -- 包包太小了.
對於這點我是還蠻不爽的, 武器鍛造那邊比較沒差, 但主廚就是要拿一堆材料一直試配方
我練到超過75級以後, 包包根本沒辦法裝下所有目前可用的材料,
只能一直換這個換那個然後到處試.
而讓我更不爽的地方是商城可以買包包欄位 -- 我他X的買斷了遊戲,
還要再跟你買包包欄位才能裝下我的食材來試食譜?
可以給我個包包全開數位版讓我先評估一下價錢嗎?
Discovery的設計雖然算有趣, 但我想最後只會變成另一個拿專業經驗的方法吧
畢竟網路資訊流通這麼快, 應該很快就會有全Discovery配方可以查了.
總而言之我正式上線應該是不會再選主廚了, 實在是有點整人.
明明就只有警告材料要花很多錢啊! 也沒跟我說還要花錢買包包欄位...
雜項
我覺得最有趣的部份就是開Vista和對話了. 看不同的種族的個性和對話很好玩.
然後Vista要到處爬山挑戰, 挑戰完還有短片可以看實在很不錯.
印象最深的是一個在Lion's Arch的崖邊一根突出水面的岩石上的Vista.
那時候在附近繞來繞去一直想不透怎麼爬上去, 最後開始想會不會是跟NPC有關,
然後就看到有個NPC真的站在崖邊, 跟他講話竟然要我幫忙測試他新發明的噴射器 XD
至於PoI雖然叫做point of interest, 但我對它們真的沒什麼興趣.
大部份的地圖都蠻漂亮的, Asura的主城Rata Sum也很酷,
不過如果有更多奇妙的發明和導覽的話就好了.
角色動作部份有些我覺得很詭異.
Asura Guardian拿雙手劍時往前跳砍那招一直有微妙的滯空感.
然後我測試的Norn Ranger拿單手劍的時候, 普攻的第三下竟然會浮在空中砍?!
Elementalist的火系第三招Phoenix, 這根本是火麻雀吧! 別騙我了!
總而言之, GW2目前對我來說是個很正常的有好有壞的遊戲雛型, 感覺還沒做的很完善
但至少概念是新穎有趣的.
希望他會一直改進, 希望不會越改越爛, 這樣就很有價值了.
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