BG - 鬥陣特攻
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要討論再開一篇來討論，比賽文留給比賽內容就好
先說結論 : 碧姬的盾擊必須再nerf，她現在太過強大
1. 抗刺客
雙刺客輸出爽好幾季了，總算有個能屌打刺客的輔助上場，各輔助玩家爽死
問題是這樣真的是好的平衡嗎?
當刺客一到後排就被撞成腦殘投胎去，這平衡就是廢了
刺客戰場上的最大責任就是集火吃掉後排，輔助的最大責任是維護好隊友血量
刺客本身打傷害收頭部分就應該大於輔助，但暴雪也沒完全讓輔助死去
和尚掛珠自己打
安娜雙技能都能打刺客
慈悲最強機動性往隊友靠
阿姨CO就不用說了最不怕刺客的兩隻
問題是以上這些輔助，要是很準(前兩者)或是很滑溜(後三者)才能讓刺客空手而歸
你要做出逆天的事情(輔助打贏刺客)，那操作上的意識和要求高也是合情合理
但是碧姬呢? 舉著盾不會被打，刺客貼上來撞一下直接超渡他
這輔助上RK直接毀滅全部刺客，看天梯前五百就知道meta轉換的速度有多驚人
回到一開始說的，刺客固然爽很久，但能抗刺客的方法也不少
現在這樣的暴力平衡真的是暴雪想要的嗎?
2. 抗坦克
猩猩Dva隨著刺客時代的結束也直接摔到底部
有看比賽就知道這兩隻現在有多慘
來因女坦的再次崛起除了半藏之外跟碧姬的相關性也是很高
同樣問題，他的盾擊對坦克而言仍然是很恐怖的技能
五秒可以暈眩舉盾的萊因一次
後方女坦如果沒有上盾，來因血量會瞬間被壓到很低甚至暴斃
其他英雄的小招控場來因都有應對方法
睡針、鉤子用盾擋
閃光彈往上舉擋掉
拳王、來因衝過來可以互撞
就這個碧姬完全打不贏，女坦泡泡8秒一個，代表來因註定會被撞好幾次
抵抗的方法? 抱歉沒有
舉盾會被撞，互撞也會輸，唯一方法是躲遠遠的，但來因是主坦哪有辦法躲遠遠的
不過坦克中能最有效打碧姬的也是來因，無視盾牌的近戰攻擊75傷害也是很痛的
所以現在主流就是兩邊都出來因 女坦 碧姬，然後在前排一直互相傷害
https://imgur.com/FlImjJN
來因 女坦 碧姬 半藏 和尚 慈悲(莫伊拉)
就是現在勝率輾壓其他陣型的meta陣
追根究柢，讓碧姬真正強勢的就是那個盾擊
低風險、高報酬、短CD
之前有版友說可以讓他盾擊後盾牌量降低，我覺得這方面的改動應該會很好
600盾撞下去就-400甚至更高，要讓碧姬受到的懲罰更大
另外來因舉盾被暈眩、互撞會輸也必須改，這主坦一點尊嚴都沒有了
半藏不在本篇討論範圍，請針對碧姬討論就好
然後不要拿分數出來講，甚麼分段怎樣怎樣，我幾分去打什麼場還不是怎樣怎樣
請以同樣水平的玩家來做討論，謝謝
補充一下: 前幾天有數據提到碧姬的選角率9成，勝率55%
這代表有碧姬的隊伍打沒碧姬的隊伍勝率是75%...嗯...
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