alphaGO的黃博士 這樣算代打嗎? 算作弊嗎? - 圍棋
By Hedwig
at 2017-01-16T07:45
at 2017-01-16T07:45
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※ 引述《proex (vivian)》之銘言:
: 前一陣子對上世界頂尖棋手是60勝0敗,
: 下棋的人是阿法狗的黃博士,對奕之前不說是用電腦計算的,
: 讓對手以為是跟人在下,
: 但實際上卻是用alphaGO 偷計算。
: 請問 alphaGO的黃博士 這樣算是代打嗎?
: 算作弊嗎?
: 就像上網下象棋一樣,
: 人與人之間對奕,對手卻偷用電腦來計算,
: 這樣是不是太卑鄙了??
: 以後我上網下象棋,
: 旁邊用電腦象棋程式計算(棋力調到最強),
: 我再依電腦所下的步數來下。
: 這樣算作弊嗎?
這邊談一下網路作弊問題 , 一般是說申請的號不是"本人"下
特別是找強的槍手或使用官方不歡迎的網路工具輔助以求獲勝才叫作弊。
平常官方是不太管但比賽較會留意。
橫掃一線棋手的 AI master 原本就是申請給 AI 用 的,
也就是說該號 "本人" 就是 新版 "Alphago" , 這還是官方知情給的也允許的。
要構成作弊 反而是要人類或別的AI 跑去取代 Master 下棋 。
這狀況要被舉發一般是 Master 下出幾局不符合自己水平的及特性的對局
才容易被發現。 要告 Master 作弊 ? 大概要 master 輸了幾局不該輸的局
或是出現了更強大的AI 或是超級人類棋手幫master代打 ,
這都太生猛了鐵定上新聞。
順路廣播一下 : 申請野狐直升 7~9d 棋手最好不要借別人下,特別是借
給水平明顯差或高自己一截者下 , 前幾天網管因此封了一些號 後面還
會再查一波。官方原本也不太管的,
但近來有觀眾特別是"愛押分"者常會向官方投訴 ~~~
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: 前一陣子對上世界頂尖棋手是60勝0敗,
: 下棋的人是阿法狗的黃博士,對奕之前不說是用電腦計算的,
: 讓對手以為是跟人在下,
: 但實際上卻是用alphaGO 偷計算。
: 請問 alphaGO的黃博士 這樣算是代打嗎?
: 算作弊嗎?
: 就像上網下象棋一樣,
: 人與人之間對奕,對手卻偷用電腦來計算,
: 這樣是不是太卑鄙了??
: 以後我上網下象棋,
: 旁邊用電腦象棋程式計算(棋力調到最強),
: 我再依電腦所下的步數來下。
: 這樣算作弊嗎?
這邊談一下網路作弊問題 , 一般是說申請的號不是"本人"下
特別是找強的槍手或使用官方不歡迎的網路工具輔助以求獲勝才叫作弊。
平常官方是不太管但比賽較會留意。
橫掃一線棋手的 AI master 原本就是申請給 AI 用 的,
也就是說該號 "本人" 就是 新版 "Alphago" , 這還是官方知情給的也允許的。
要構成作弊 反而是要人類或別的AI 跑去取代 Master 下棋 。
這狀況要被舉發一般是 Master 下出幾局不符合自己水平的及特性的對局
才容易被發現。 要告 Master 作弊 ? 大概要 master 輸了幾局不該輸的局
或是出現了更強大的AI 或是超級人類棋手幫master代打 ,
這都太生猛了鐵定上新聞。
順路廣播一下 : 申請野狐直升 7~9d 棋手最好不要借別人下,特別是借
給水平明顯差或高自己一截者下 , 前幾天網管因此封了一些號 後面還
會再查一波。官方原本也不太管的,
但近來有觀眾特別是"愛押分"者常會向官方投訴 ~~~
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