AlphaGo發現自己79步失誤 - 圍棋

By Hamiltion
at 2016-03-13T17:06

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※ [本文轉錄自 Gossiping 看板 #1MvIov-I ]

作者: n91324 (不丹) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [爆卦] AlphaGo發現自己79步失誤
時間: Sun Mar 13 17:02:45 2016

Deep Mind 創辦人在推特表示

Mistake was on move 79, but #AlphaGo only came to that realisation on around move 87

所以AG確實在79有失誤

而且她下到87才發現自己之前的失誤

補上推特:
推 OrzJ: https://twitter.com/demishassabis 推特

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推 AllenHuang:加藤01/08 00:53

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→ AllenHuang:我是在說青蜂俠01/08 00:54

→ AllenHuang:樓上好糟糕01/08 00:54

→ AllenHuang:我是說樓樓上01/08 00:54

Tags: 圍棋

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By Rosalind
at 2016-03-15T19:15

加藤

By Jacky
at 2016-03-17T13:25

鷹

By Kyle
at 2016-03-21T19:17

我是在說青蜂俠
樓上好糟糕
我是說樓樓上

By Zenobia
at 2016-03-24T20:50

By Connor
at 2016-03-27T12:45

By Regina
at 2016-03-30T18:13

87分，不能再高了

By Todd Johnson
at 2016-03-31T07:23

By Poppy
at 2016-04-02T16:06

By Isabella
at 2016-04-05T22:27

By Ursula
at 2016-04-09T13:16

By Irma
at 2016-04-09T20:28

By Frederica
at 2016-04-14T16:55

By Isla
at 2016-04-19T14:55

阿法狗：幹 87喔

By Edwina
at 2016-04-21T15:25

By Selena
at 2016-04-22T23:02

78手勝負手

By Donna
at 2016-04-25T13:51

By Valerie
at 2016-04-25T16:02

87分

By Ina
at 2016-04-29T15:08

會被說放水

By Lydia
at 2016-05-03T23:56

By Jacob
at 2016-05-05T22:15

在座的各位都是

By Charlie
at 2016-05-09T02:56

By Doris
at 2016-05-12T10:53

87XD

By Xanthe
at 2016-05-14T17:23

鍵盤佐為：Alphago放水給韓國人

By Ethan
at 2016-05-18T01:35

By Yedda
at 2016-05-19T22:47

87 我癢早就預測到了

By Sierra Rose
at 2016-05-24T15:07

By Ophelia
at 2016-05-28T02:24

電腦也會失誤？

By Faithe
at 2016-05-30T19:03

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

By Bethany
at 2016-06-03T04:23

回去就看那步電腦的決策是怎樣

By Jake
at 2016-06-04T18:01

By Joe
at 2016-06-09T04:27

哈哈真的會事後諸葛這AI太強了

By Faithe
at 2016-06-13T16:34

真的被78神手嚇到

By Erin
at 2016-06-13T18:19

By William
at 2016-06-14T12:16

今日的AlphaGo運算效能 ■■■■■■□□□□ ６０％

By Olga
at 2016-06-15T10:42

87XD

By Michael
at 2016-06-15T22:38

跟馬小久一樣後知後覺

By Yuri
at 2016-06-18T05:44

87XDDD

By Charlotte
at 2016-06-20T07:08

結論.AG又更強了
人工智慧當然會失誤...AI還在學習中

By Tracy
at 2016-06-24T11:51

87 阿法狗

By Zenobia
at 2016-06-24T22:27

失誤是三洨

By Odelette
at 2016-06-26T14:39

要畫阿法狗娘了沒

By Rebecca
at 2016-06-30T04:34

87分不能再高了

By Queena
at 2016-06-30T17:04

今天真的87

By Quanna
at 2016-07-01T02:48

By Iris
at 2016-07-05T18:26

78嚇到87
創辦人又懂78手了

By Ethan
at 2016-07-07T08:20

By Hedwig
at 2016-07-09T09:54

這個暗示XD 阿發狗根本超聰明吧

By Queena
at 2016-07-09T21:46

好癢

By Poppy
at 2016-07-14T15:47

一堆人不是吹說不會有失誤XDDDD

By Tristan Cohan
at 2016-07-14T19:17

反省給推

By Valerie
at 2016-07-17T17:51

87手發現後就崩潰了吧..李是高手就很難再扳回來了

By Una
at 2016-07-21T22:51

By John
at 2016-07-25T10:35

87XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

By Selena
at 2016-07-29T16:50

小李下了神之一手後阿發狗被嚇傻

By Agatha
at 2016-08-01T02:12

By Audriana
at 2016-08-01T07:22

少來...

By Elma
at 2016-08-03T22:48

８７？

By Olga
at 2016-08-04T07:45

By Kumar
at 2016-08-08T14:18

恐怖的是他還知道自己下錯了這超恐怖的

By Damian
at 2016-08-11T08:48

一堆人說放水哈哈

By Susan
at 2016-08-11T22:22

他在罵人類吧

By Frederic
at 2016-08-13T09:00

有點笨啊...也太慢才發現了吧

By Necoo
at 2016-08-16T22:48

87 XDDDD 阿法狗一定被自己嚇傻惹

By Kama
at 2016-08-18T23:51

很有意思

By Kristin
at 2016-08-22T09:34

下到87

By Queena
at 2016-08-25T09:57

AlphaGo:幹我是87 失誤了

By Skylar Davis
at 2016-08-27T14:16

神之78手

By Edith
at 2016-08-30T16:53

唉呦手滑了一下

By Tristan Cohan
at 2016-09-04T08:42

被嚇到還會反省好強阿

By Xanthe
at 2016-09-06T02:04

78 87 哈哈哈

By Una
at 2016-09-10T10:55

87878787

By Margaret
at 2016-09-15T09:50

78 87
幹我詩巫惹

By Heather
at 2016-09-17T03:27

https://twitter.com/demishassabis 推特

By Quintina
at 2016-09-20T20:20

不能再高了

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2016-09-21T09:14

By Olga
at 2016-09-25T18:19

By Jake
at 2016-09-27T15:53

阿法狗: 幹我怎麼失誤

By Ula
at 2016-10-01T04:53

樓下

By Megan
at 2016-10-04T03:46

又要進化了

By Oscar
at 2016-10-08T11:55

阿法夠也懂87 www

By Annie
at 2016-10-08T21:11

阿發狗也懂87 癢

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2016-10-11T08:04

下到87才發現自己87

By Heather
at 2016-10-14T23:30

統粉狗XDDDDD

By Xanthe
at 2016-10-19T21:17

這也太人性了吧...

By Xanthe
at 2016-10-21T02:05

By Victoria
at 2016-10-21T10:47

87 XDDDDD

By Connor
at 2016-10-25T20:13

By Irma
at 2016-10-28T11:20

能意識到失誤好像有點強

By Eden
at 2016-11-02T02:30

電腦也會失誤? 電壓不穩嗎?

By Connor
at 2016-11-02T05:28

應該是李下的78手，超出阿狗得計算所以就錯了

By Bethany
at 2016-11-02T13:09

By Quintina
at 2016-11-05T04:57

87分不能再高了

By Christine
at 2016-11-07T17:44

阿法狗加油努力學習再接再厲

By Rosalind
at 2016-11-10T19:49

被失誤？

By Michael
at 2016-11-12T11:43

下到87 哈哈哈發現自己是87

By Emily
at 2016-11-15T22:38

By James
at 2016-11-18T05:13

失誤能意識到超猛的

By Anthony
at 2016-11-18T17:50

阿法狗自己失誤都會嚇到

By Frederica
at 2016-11-23T09:10

By Franklin
at 2016-11-24T11:34

By Erin
at 2016-11-24T17:40

會知道下錯了由此可知阿法狗在裝傻這才真的恐怖

By Edith
at 2016-11-27T20:24

AlphaGo偷看統神台變87，可憐

By Franklin
at 2016-11-28T13:44

78沒看過的神手所以79下錯自爆

By Yedda
at 2016-12-03T02:30

推特有另一篇阿

By Ethan
at 2016-12-04T10:19

87這步放水太兇

By Lily
at 2016-12-08T15:09

DH 這句話怎麼解讀啊

By Jacob
at 2016-12-12T14:10

78手古力知道是神之手結果阿法夠卻說是自己下錯了

By William
at 2016-12-14T13:55

78步在影片不知道在哪

By Enid
at 2016-12-16T08:48

是小李下得好搞亂阿發狗吧

By Queena
at 2016-12-16T10:05

0987

By Elvira
at 2016-12-18T06:33

阿法狗:　對手這步還好啦不神　是我自己失誤

By Caroline
at 2016-12-20T15:38

By Bethany
at 2016-12-25T01:18

google工程師有得研究了XDDD

By George
at 2016-12-28T14:22

能夠意識到自己犯錯的AI比從不會錯的還恐怖..

By Mary
at 2016-12-30T02:13

79沒錯吧?應該錯在後面一點?

By Blanche
at 2017-01-01T07:46

意識到自己失誤到底怎麼辦到的

By Ina
at 2017-01-03T22:33

有趣 AlphaGO有審視自己"失誤"的能力

By Edith
at 2017-01-05T13:14

真的...會意識到自己有問題表示他會檢討

By Odelette
at 2017-01-07T14:46

是看勝率嗎

By Christine
at 2017-01-10T20:41

我比較好奇失誤是怎麼辦到的

By Jacky
at 2017-01-12T07:49

這代表小李走到狗狗都沒算到的地方

By Selena
at 2017-01-15T00:18

沒阿，錯誤就是看勝率圖急掉就知道了，昨天有人放FB那個圖
長得也很像，急掉或急升就是在自己或對手明顯的問題手

By Anonymous
at 2017-01-18T14:49

應該是看勝率

By Yuri
at 2017-01-19T02:23

要搭配之後的推特看那是設計者的解讀

By Thomas
at 2017-01-21T06:22

電腦腦意識到自已失誤其實是很可怕的一件事

By Brianna
at 2017-01-21T18:43

狗真的下完後變87了,神之一手的威力

By Delia
at 2017-01-25T16:55

看來第5戰還有得打

By Sandy
at 2017-01-29T09:56

錯就錯在87

By Hazel
at 2017-02-01T14:32

應該會每一步下出去還是一職重複之前

By Skylar Davis
at 2017-02-06T05:24

應該是重新計算後發現那步並不好

By Doris
at 2017-02-10T19:38

對

By Edwina
at 2017-02-11T05:00

會意識到自己有問題表示他會檢討

By Edward Lewis
at 2017-02-13T23:21

原來還有空重新計算...

By Eden
at 2017-02-15T20:56

GPU平行計算

By Bethany
at 2017-02-18T23:27

原本跟樓上想的一樣，不過看下篇就合理多了XD

By Aaliyah
at 2017-02-23T17:48

有四篇，可以一起貼一下

By Edwina
at 2017-02-24T22:14

87分不能在高了

By Ingrid
at 2017-02-25T03:20

https://twitter.com/demishassabis

By Yuri
at 2017-02-28T20:44

有趣

By Callum
at 2017-03-03T14:57

By Joseph
at 2017-03-08T08:55

ai的心理素質不行啊

By Edwina
at 2017-03-11T07:47

想到阿法狗發現自己失誤就很萌XDD

By Yedda
at 2017-03-13T03:29

應該是說直到87前 AG仍認為自己勝率有70%

By Agnes
at 2017-03-15T10:02

重新計算後發現79那步讓勝率大幅降低?
重新計算後發現79那步讓勝率大幅降低?

By Kristin
at 2017-03-16T06:47

阿法狗的主設計者之一是臺灣人懂87好像也蠻正常的?

By Aaliyah
at 2017-03-19T09:24

其實問題還是為何知道是從79開始

By Hedy
at 2017-03-22T13:28

87 不能再多了

By Valerie
at 2017-03-24T15:13

87 XDD

By Ivy
at 2017-03-25T17:28

每下玩一手後電腦就會分析一次接下來走向以及勝率
然後發現79的時候有問題吧

By Lily
at 2017-03-28T03:58

能快速覆盤這件事真的蠻恐怖的...

By Wallis
at 2017-03-30T06:15

因為評估函數會不斷對盤面評價啊，所以才會發現問題在哪

By Daniel
at 2017-04-01T16:14

87手就是阿狗開始亂下的時候嗎?

By Genevieve
at 2017-04-04T22:18

有夠87

By Anonymous
at 2017-04-07T12:29

知道自己錯在哪...難怪會越變越強

By Tristan Cohan
at 2017-04-07T16:14

87手應該是 alphago 判斷自己勝率不夠的狀況, 才會開始回饋

By Victoria
at 2017-04-11T21:59

By Olive
at 2017-04-12T18:05

會發現自己錯在哪這很可怕啊

By Brianna
at 2017-04-15T02:49

我也覺得會自省這件事超可怕…

By Damian
at 2017-04-19T07:43

朝聖 87

By Oscar
at 2017-04-21T21:20

原來阿發夠也會出錯阿之前看一堆版有的推文好像阿發夠
不會出錯的樣子

By Joseph
at 2017-04-26T09:32

版上之前的說法不是說出錯只是比電腦弱的人類才會覺得
那是錯嗎

By Ida
at 2017-05-01T09:02

其實到底有誰覺得阿法狗不會出錯...

By Kumar
at 2017-05-03T23:04

反而這場勝利還是建立在前面一堆平常不應該的忍讓上最
後一手就引出一連串的bug 我想這種勝利對於很多業餘棋士
大概還是不夠好

By Ursula
at 2017-05-07T06:18

應該說版上覺得人類覺得的錯可能不是錯只是人類太笨
真正上帝來看發現的電腦下錯人類可能也看不出來

By Ida
at 2017-05-08T21:44

一個用機率判斷的ai註定有弱點看人類能不能找出來而已

By Lucy
at 2017-05-13T05:27

對阿我記得昨天以前一堆liaon98的觀點讓我不知道該說
什麼...

By Megan
at 2017-05-16T21:22

補充原推網址 https://goo.gl/ClLUQ5

By Thomas
at 2017-05-21T01:14

電腦不能"意識"好嗎？就是算一算勝率降低而已

By Heather
at 2017-05-23T05:39

Demis 只是用比較擬人的方式去講而已
"意識"是工程師把 log 打開發現勝率驟降

alphago避開劫爭

By Daph Bay
at 2016-03-13T15:42

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