2.5測試服v1 幽夜版在吵什麼 - 手遊

By Carolina Franco
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Table of Contents
幽夜=NGA>手機 網頁游戲綜合討論>原神>幽夜淨土
專討論未證實情報(內鬼/解包/舅舅)的地方
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1. 新的吃盾怪 見下圖
https://i.imgur.com/18Cpn35.jpg



總之為了針對鍾離 新的怪物會懲罰玩家開護盾
雖然已經見怪不怪 但手法越來越露骨毫不掩飾 並且「根本不有趣」
以為只是針對鍾離嗎 才剛結束PU的一斗也躺槍了
我覺得像最近的圓盤活動放入一個觸發導電-CD的插件很強很好用
透過獎勵限縮玩家格子推銷心海這就很不錯 我沒心海就思考其他辦法解決
找了幾篇文章
https://i.imgur.com/uus1B5V.jpg






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2. 八重不如預期
還不知道技能組的可以到
https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com/db/char/yaemiko/?lang=CHS
或我之前的文
八重的毒點
https://i.imgur.com/p86Np2d.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/hPMx8g2.jpg

然而現在版本基礎攻擊力卻少了快20%
https://i.imgur.com/0K0git2.jpg

並且自身並不如雷神一樣九成DPS都是大招 而是EQ約各一半
此外八重普遍認為是有很多版本 這個可以去這篇看一下
文章代碼(AID): #1Xrhng5J (miHoYo) [ptt.cc] [內鬼] 八重廢案與綾人技能
https://i.imgur.com/yEdr6Jr.jpg

但這個細節調整都沒做好(或是覺得已經夠好) 就端出來測有點誇張
經歷過申鶴的「這才V1」「這才V2」「這才V3」「這才落地」
會不會再調整也是未知數
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By Isla
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討厭那種看他表演就飽了那種,例如水無相.其他這類機制
上操作我就換個隊伍了事,而且坦白說我一直覺得某些情
況下上個盾變無腦通蠻無聊的...

By Lydia
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議很大

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邊?

By Rae
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可能是他們擅長洗腦吧 我也覺得這樣暴力懲罰不是好現象了

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By Yedda
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是前挪的結果 而且確實是特別做強的一命
是屬於不能拿來與其他二命類比的那種

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By Una
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說等),一定是會存在克制型態.別的不說,不然未來五年都
要一個模板就你無敵? 我是不能接受未來五年能見模板
就是當前機制變體這種無聊事

By Susan
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By Cara
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至於深淵那種程度 確實換個隊伍多凹幾次總行

By Faithe
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鍾離自然不會入隊 例如雷九萬班

By Leila
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那才是真正刺激

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By Noah
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性 而且這次不只盾角連岩系角色都一起下去了

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我再一次針對下去
岩系本來就不是特別強的屬性了 甚至一斗前是偏弱

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By Yuri
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出現在特定地區,結果你各位決定是全面放棄,我也是兩手
一攤我不能跟你講啥

By Gilbert
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By Catherine
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怎麼沒有凍結補血上盾 增幅、劇變同理

By Hedy
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段太粗糙

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By Kyle
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然後這個V1八重沒有 你甚至找不到一套 只能2+2

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By Agnes
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免疫,他X狗策劃雷神退環境

By Suhail Hany
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然後跟我說是因為之後的草 那倒是先出草啊!

By Tom
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By Skylar DavisLinda
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描述感覺比較類似丘丘王系列的霸體盾 如果是那樣的話根本
沒什麼大不了

By Elvira
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霸體盾可以接受但還有無腦奶啊 除非這怪很好打斷

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火使徒聽到官方說有穿盾火傷就喊說鍾離剋星 有人依雷水使
徒機制推測是要先傷到才有穿盾傷的聲音被大多數人當耳邊風

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限輪迴

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虛假的送仙典儀 真正的送仙典儀

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針對弓箭手 怪會劈落箭矢算了

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大概跟流血狗改成哈巴狗丟出來一樣

By William
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當初我對流血狗出來覺得有趣,最終落地打下去 就這?

By Faithe
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異,盾太強是事實,最好在出個奶量減半的怪來考驗玩家
讚

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By Dora
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慶幸我沒抽?垃圾策劃為什麼不直接刪掉岩屬性,提瓦特只
要六屬性就行了

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By Genevieve
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哈遊似乎很怕這些人叫

By Damian
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專主投資岩屬接下來打不過了 建議現在退坑我覺得

By Joseph
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By Anonymous
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死這問題就大了

By Yuri
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退坑
當然是會直接對我頭尻下去說阿你麗莎跟安柏放哪去了?

By Eden
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用

By Franklin
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,抽個角色還要考慮種姓制度炒股,可憐哪,護航說什麼不
喜歡退坑的你自己去退啦呵呵

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不然傻了才普攻

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界不鎖傷害上限大概5秒內變粉

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亂鬼等感受不到

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By Ingrid
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來繼續輪迴這個過程

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備人權

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By Odelette
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的程度了,如果妳不是只玩過一款手遊這類會不斷更新的
遊戲的話,建議你想想那些通膨爆炸後死亡的遊戲走的都
是什麼路,至少針對角色安排敵人是末路遊戲的大共通點

By Caroline
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廢一招還不如退坑 然後前面盾角威風的時候都不說話

By Odelette
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個能力而已,不是全世界都偷盾或反補

By Brianna
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盾的時代,問題是岩反應的結晶到底得罪誰,岩反應是不是
提瓦特種姓裡的賤民地位

By Ethan
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By Olivia
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變少吧 後面就是會一直推出新的角色玩法 比如MIKO

By Margaret
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By Charlotte
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被搞你說看看 我沒練岩沒資格說話

By Queena
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麼腦迴路 有這種怪的場合換個隊伍不就好了 其他還不是
盾爽打

By Madame
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岩嗎,因為結晶爛啊

By Daph Bay
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By Regina
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By Emily
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By Margaret
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針對鍾離 強行逼退帝君,硬抬心海 我就在困惑 那像
我這種沒鍾離沒心海的是不是在鶴觀還是肥龍王版本就該
退坑了

By Linda
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By David
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度跟成本 而是直接反制你用這些角色

By Tracy
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晶真的沒問題?

By Kristin
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阿屌炸天也不是因為他們是岩吧 而是這個角色機制組合
就是強
如果你問我的話 我會跟你講開服就有問題了 不是現在
才在講

By Lily
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這種方式不好嗎?
當然後來劍鬼玩到魈仙師就是另外一件事情了

By Linda
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By Genevieve
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一樣 現在就是有個吃盾怪不能用盾打而已啊 你會因為有
怪不能全部人都打 就該該叫 當初遇到雷史萊姆你就該退了
啦

By Heather
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角怪物就變無敵這種設計就很無趣

By Daph Bay
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By Daph Bay
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下路岩史萊姆一樣

By Necoo
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兒但自動鎖敵跟輸出不錯 所以噴岩沒意義 岩角就是人
人走自己的風格 屬性沒幫他們什麼忙

By Anthony
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的怪數量 盾還遠低別人咧

By Odelette
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我根本不談這塊,我只針對機制,戰力通膨是另一個大題目
.而所謂針對角色安排到底是主觀居多還是客觀問題也有
得研究,至少我個人認為主觀居多,不然你想想接下來五年
打算怎麼安排? 也不用回我說不是開發商不用想這問題,
用玩家自己角度想,當前可想見又不想超出的範圍內去設
計,我都覺得趨於無聊,因為你一定會撞上你主觀認為的針
對角色的問題

By Agnes
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幹阿不就切個隊伍配置的問題不是

By Elizabeth
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By Madame
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By Callum
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這也沒何好討論的

By Odelette
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By Lucy
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:不爽 滾 虐我岩隊 廢物遊戲

By Hedy
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是應該改的是玩家想法? 大概思維最大差異就是深境螺旋
12層我滿星與否無所謂 有些人卻一直很鑽這個牛角尖我
就是要滿星,而我現在越來越感受到設計逐漸被深境螺旋
所限制,這有點本末倒置

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By Hamiltion
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https://i.imgur.com/uxPp06r.jpg 打怪幾乎全程都在噴
結晶和撿結晶 看來要預防性退坑刪GAME了 永別了雲堇婆

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設計比較快而且治本 要弱保軟直接保到底大家也不用爭
論太多了

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一個是養成困難

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要硬打要尻弱點都行

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米衛兵或是斗m 但環境不同而"需要"更換配對我比較有感
(策略感) 那跟我打膩了換配對不一樣,而且現在也沒說惡
性到非你要抽否則不能過得逼氪狀態,阿如果說阿有其他
方法阿 抱歉我沒得討論 因為我沒創意這大哉問在這討
論也是蠻問號的啦 還是貼出來大家看看然後寄去客服建
議?

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和漂浮靈一樣,各種方面就是不對勁

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後來想到用胡桃玩一下發現我怎麼一直撞空氣 爬文
才知道有這問題

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這主客觀問題有人覺得很針對我覺得遊戲性 留給他人討
論

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界不都隨便打? 這遊戲玩家除了抽自己喜歡的角色

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最近幾次版本下來這類爭論也沒少過,而我越發覺得變化
等設計上的考量越來越被侷限,自我感覺啦 就...這樣

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阿莫斯:

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